Don’t Steal From a Compsci
filed in Personal, Tech on Apr.07, 2010
Hello Internet! This was a personal blog post, however re-reading it now it does seem a bit markety for Wavesecure. I’d like to assure you I’m not a marketing shill for them, I’ve got a real crime number, real Twitter stream (with swearing!) and the server certainly wasn’t prepared for marketing-style loads.
So, the last day or so has been rather eventful. As some of you following Twitter might’ve noticed, we got burgled on Monday, resulting in the theft of my laptop (of 4 year’s loyal service), HTC Hero (with 9 months more contract to pay off), wallet and change jar; Josh’s camera, old mobile and suit jacket. We believe it was opportunistic, with the door possibly being latched incorrectly, them quickly rifling through the downstairs rooms loading up stuff quickly into my bag, then leaving when they realised that someone was in. This left myself, completely unaware of this, to come downstairs to find the door ajar, my goods missing, to stand there aghast (also known as swearing) that this could happen, stealing the most important items of mine whilst I was home!
However, now unfolds a wonderful tale of why you don’t steal tech from a Compsci (or if you do, don’t take the phone!).
By now it’s probably about 17:30, so I resign myself to the crap of cancelling my cards, calling my mobile to confirm it wasn’t available and calling the police who would arrive within an hour or so. Whilst wallowing in my own feelings of “oh crap, I need to replace shit, why didn’t I get around to purchasing insurance yet?”, I begin to think about whether I actually did set up some remote “wipe your phone when nicked” software. After hunting down the site and remembering my “PIN” (not a bloody password, and no email correspondence of course!), we begin to get somewhere.
Turns out that WaveSecure is actually a damned fine piece of software. Once we got past the login, I was presented with a lovely screen saying “Your phone is LOCKED”. Interesting, we could be onto something here! Lets send them a message, I want all my stuff back not just the phone. Oh, what’s that option? Track?
Now this is intriguing! My phone has a problem where if you knock it too hard, it turns off. So it seems that my phone was turned on at 17:13PM and 15 minutes later it had a new SIM inserted, with this wonderful application telling us the new phone number. And there’s another option on the left there, Location. Wonder what this says!

22 GPS traces for my phone, with an anomaly. The dark areas built up over time, H is (roughly) home.
So, we now have the phone’s new number and location! Stuck at home waiting for the police to arrive (their 1 hour estimate moves closer to 2 hours), being quite frustrated by the fact that I could see exactly where my phone was, less than 5 minutes away on the high street! Wanting to leave, but being stuck waiting for the police to arrive (not like they could call me on the mobile if I was out!) was quite painful. I decide it’s not a good idea to call the new number, what good will it be to alert the guy to the fact that we know his phone number? We continue to gather more evidence, and although we know the location, we thought we’d get the police a better estimate. To Google streetview!

A dodgy looking 2nd-hand phone/computer shop, an internet cafe and a barbers. Any could be a front for something...
So we believe it’s sitting in the mobile phone shop, being sold off quickly, having the SIM swapped or trying to be “unlocked”. I remotely back up all my texts and stuff over this application, then remotely wipe the phone’s data just incase. Finally, the police turn up. We give them a statement whilst attempting to focus their attention on our detective work “I know where the phone is; we’ve tracked the guy!”, although i’m sure that getting an instant witness statement probably was top on their list of requirements.
So, after settling down they get us to explain exactly what we’ve got for them. I explain that I had some software and could tell the phone had a new SIM card in it, with the above number, and that it was sitting on the high street, most likely in the mobile phone shop. They decide to call the number and find that it rings. So they call up their guv with a rather odd request, can he go to the high street and check the above shops? They’re going to keep calling the phone and see if he can hear it. Calling it a second time, someone answers, and a (one sided) conversation unfolds:
“Hello? Who’s this?”
“This is the police here. Now this isn’t your phone that you’re talking on is it? No, we know it isn’t your phone. Where are you?”
“Look, this is the police, I need to know where you are?”
“Acton? Where in Acton.”
“Acton High Street? Ok, what shop?”
At this point they’ve confirmed we’re right, and the guy on the other end decides to hang up. They repeatedly call the phone, get as far as explaining it’s the police, before hanging up. Eventually on one of these calls we suddenly hear:
“Hello? Is that you guv?”
The police promptly drive off to the high street, asking us not to follow and assuring us “Don’t worry, someone’s going to get arrested”. We celebrate at home, knowing my phone was safe, with some beers and bucks fizz. We then get called to go over to the police station (at 1AM) to ID our stuff. We get stuck waiting at the station, turns out they got a lot of stuff that they needed to bag up. When they bring us in we see a big bag full of evidence and I begin poking around, eventually finding my laptop. A wave of relief washes over me; we’d won, got (most) of the stuff back, caught the guy and found some other people’s stuff too!
So, we eventually recovered the laptop, my phone and Josh’s camera. The feeling of dread I’d felt less than 3 hours before was replaced with justice; within 6 hours I knew my laptop was safe too. My stuff’s currently stuck in evidence, i’m trying to get at least the SIM card back straight away, although that could have some good fingerprints on it. I might have to give evidence on how I tracked down the phone, but will be all too happy to do so. Many thanks go out to the police for being so cooperative and WaveSecure, which not only got my phone back, but the laptop and camera as well.
So the lesson is, if you’re going to steal from a compsci, don’t take their GPS enabled phone…


April 7th, 2010 on 3:44 am
[...] So here is Andy's post, original can be found here: [...]
April 7th, 2010 on 5:38 am
[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by WaveSecure and WaveSecure, Andrew Slater. Andrew Slater said: New blog post: Don't Steal From a Compsci http://www.thefryhole.co.uk/wordpress/2010/04/dont-steal-from-a-compsci/ [...]
April 7th, 2010 on 8:06 am
Social comments and analytics for this post…
This post was mentioned on Twitter by wavesecure: RT @4slate: New blog post: Don’t Steal From a Compsci http://www.thefryhole.co.uk/wordpress/2010/04/dont-steal-from-a-compsci/...
April 7th, 2010 on 8:54 am
[...] is from a twitter feed for wavesecure he was burgled and got all his stolen goods back in 24 hrs Don’t Steal From a Compsci – A Rambling Slate [...]
April 7th, 2010 on 9:44 am
beautiful, brilliant, sell the story to the Guardian tech section, srsly! fantastic.
April 7th, 2010 on 12:27 pm
Great story Cool that Wavesecure started to charge on April 1st!
“Download WaveSecure for Google Android before 31 March to enjoy free subscription”
April 7th, 2010 on 2:08 pm
Excuse my cynicism, but: do you happen to work for Wave Secure? The timing of this theft seems suspiciously convenient.
If my PR antennae are malfunctioning and this is a true happening, then all power to you.
April 7th, 2010 on 2:38 pm
Love this, thanks for writing it up!
Reminiscent of at least 2 people I know having their bikes nicked then finding them in Whitechapel market, though sadly unable to get the feckers arrested for it.
Nice work
April 7th, 2010 on 2:45 pm
I accept your cynicism radar, especially as Geoff mentions the trial expired. It’s a very win-win situation for Wavesecure, but i’m 100% independent from those guys, just a computing student in London who currently has no vested business interests, Wavesecure or otherwise. I installed it whilst it was a free beta and told my mates to install it ASAP on Monday when this went down, only to find out that it’s changed to a paid app. I’m kind of glad seeing as they saved me a good £1k of stuff. I’d never logged onto the site before, and the blog is quite literally how I went through their site for the first time and found I could do more and more, eventually resulting in tracking the blighter.
As an aside, i’ll mention that i did also load Google Latitude, as it gave me a much smaller margin of error (which covered only the dark orange section, i think Wavesecure must not want to get into trouble pinpointing a specific house) and didn’t want the police saying they weren’t going to search the high street and housing in the area. However it doesn’t update as frequently (i could get Wavesecure to do so every 15 minutes), didn’t give me the log and may not have been activated without the app being loaded.
To be honest, re-reading it it does read a bit like a “wow, this app was awesome, go buy it”, but it was intended to be a personal blog post to save me explaining the details to my mates individually. I’ve been trying to kick start my blog for a while, hence the lack of other posts.
April 7th, 2010 on 4:41 pm
[...] http://www.thefryhole.co.uk/wordpress/2010/04/dont-steal-from-a-compsci/ Filed under: Hacking Leave a comment Comments (0) Trackbacks (0) ( subscribe to comments on this post ) [...]
April 7th, 2010 on 4:57 pm
Many thanks for your explanation and taking the time to email me as well
Would be really interesting to see your traffic spike if you had any stats enabled
April 7th, 2010 on 11:52 pm
Very, very cool.
Pity it doesn’t work with my Blackberry.
Nick
April 8th, 2010 on 2:56 am
Glad it worked out well.
p.s. This story was made even more awesome since it’s in Acton near me!
April 8th, 2010 on 3:50 am
“.. and now it’s all stuck in evidence” is an awesome punchline.
April 8th, 2010 on 4:58 am
I happen to know the WaveSecure guys and they’re a trust-worthy bunch. An important thing to keep in mind, when parting with credit card numbers. (And no, other than knowing them – for a number of years – I’m not affiliated with them in any way).
- Varun.
April 8th, 2010 on 8:58 am
Sometimes it doesent even need such a hi-tech approach. When my house was burgled I called to cancel the mobile phone and asked for the last few numbers dialled. Turned out idiot burgler used the phone a few times before dumping it. Withing 4 calls I had the guys name and address (just pretended to have found phone and trying to return it). Even with this evidence the cops could do nothing. One of them said they know the perp, he was going to be in court the following week on a whole pile of burglary charges. Nothing ever recovered. No one ever charged.
April 8th, 2010 on 9:55 am
Great story. I have a similar app called Lookout (http://www.mylookout.com/) on my Hero, which is free (for now at least), but looks like it won’t work if the SIM is changed (it sends a text to the device to activate the location). It also doesn’t seem to support remote wipe on my phone (although it does advertise it as a feature – presumably on other platforms).
I think I’ll stick with Lookout for now, although WaveSecure looks pretty tempting.
April 8th, 2010 on 10:40 am
Good story,
but if by ‘compsci’ you mean computer science student or grad…
then unless you wrote the wavesecure soft (which you didn’t), you shouldn’t be holding up a piece of paper or enrollment in an undergrad degree as reason for catching these people.
Remembering a pin/password, logging into a web app that does 90% of the work for you, and then googling a location is something most people do everyday.
A first year high school student could have done the same.
April 8th, 2010 on 11:56 am
Brilliant!!!
April 9th, 2010 on 3:04 pm
nice one. This is exactly why I moved away from Newton Avenue by the way – get out of Acton quick!
April 9th, 2010 on 3:21 pm
@lame – I don’t think this chap is claiming he needed the computer science qualification in order to install the software and get his stuff back…
April 9th, 2010 on 4:24 pm
[...] the site does have a full CV online and WaveSecure haven’t even linked to it. Andrew has also replied to suggestions that he works for the company and it all seems to check out. Andrew got burgled and, [...]
April 9th, 2010 on 6:09 pm
Great story. If I knew about existence of such a soft I would buy it before. I have just bought it and installed on mt Hero. Great stuf. Thanks
April 9th, 2010 on 6:17 pm
[...] steal from a nerd Not sure if this is true or just an advert for some software….. Don’t Steal From a Compsci – A Rambling Slate This man could be our future leader. Frightening !! http://www.saveourschools.org.uk/ Gerbil [...]
April 9th, 2010 on 8:44 pm
Nice one, Slater! My dad loved the story too.
April 9th, 2010 on 9:28 pm
[...] Don’t Steal From a Compsci >> A Rambling SlateiPhone and laptop stolen. But quickly reunited with owner due to GPS location sensor. Moral: always lock your phone (screen, SIM and phone) – otherwise the bad guys will disable the GPS. Then you won’t find it. [...]
April 10th, 2010 on 8:08 am
@Nick Kotarski
actually there is a blackberry version too, WaveSecure supports almost every platform except iphone.
you can download from Blackberry AppWorld or just go to m.wavesecure.com on your phone browser to try it out!
Cheers,
D from WaveSecure Team
April 10th, 2010 on 1:01 pm
[...] Don't Steal From a Compsci – A Rambling Slate (tags: compsci geo gps justice mobile temple theft technology security police phone mapping legal law iphone geeks funny crime blogs geek) [...]
April 10th, 2010 on 8:11 pm
Excellent result!!
April 11th, 2010 on 5:23 pm
This is beautiful. I used to live in Acton (the road I was on is just off the location map) and was broken into within 2 weeks of moving there, lost both my computers and a few other things. Wish I’d had this kind of software at the time.
The burglar in question left his watch in my flat, they got his DNA, found him, arrested him and… he was found not guilty by directed verdict from the judge, and I never got any of my stuff back. So at least someone got justice from Acton police (I was impressed with them turning up for you, they took a day to show up for me…)
April 12th, 2010 on 9:52 am
To ‘Lame’
Big deal, he’s just highlighting that joe average wouldn’t use such software. Lighten up.
I do like the other headline I linked from, which was more fitting: Don’t steal from a nerd!
April 12th, 2010 on 10:11 pm
[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Richard Osborne. Richard Osborne said: Just reading a great piece on capturing a mobile phone thief http://bit.ly/bAP2FH [...]
April 12th, 2010 on 11:39 pm
That looks suspiciously like the shop from the p-p-p-p powerbook scam…
http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/shop_outside.jpg
April 15th, 2010 on 9:12 am
This is really Great,
In Africa this is where you get daily theft,supporting Wavesecure and also Selling to our clients has really been the greatest Project i have ever done.
We now know how we can even arrest Kidnappers and Hijackers just by using Wavesecure .
Many thanks and keep up Good work .
regards
Steve
April 15th, 2010 on 9:24 am
Congratulations on a great peice of detective work. I’ve got Wavesecure installed on my Hero and it’s fantastic to have a validated story that shows the application works so well.
April 15th, 2010 on 4:57 pm
@Aslate & Geoff
I got a WaveSecure account during their beta with the promise that it was a lifetime subscription. Im also VERY certain (i copied it off for a webforum) i read this in their terms at the time.
So if you and anyone else got an account with them before the beta stopped (31st March?) you can still use it.
Whilst in the app i can get the menu and check my Subscription information which says “full mode” and “days left: -”
So far, no email about subscribing either.
Glad you got your stuff back!
April 16th, 2010 on 12:52 am
[...] clever logos, a very cool interactive billboard for IBM and a geek getting revenge with the help of modern day super sleuthery. [...]
April 16th, 2010 on 9:18 am
[...] לינק לסיפור של Andrew Slater שמתאר איך הצליח לתפוס את הגנבים [...]
April 18th, 2010 on 5:21 pm
I have it installed since beta as well. Great to know it works so well.
April 21st, 2010 on 6:34 pm
[...] does automatic backups. Wavesecure sent me an email with some interesting links. Take a look at Don’t Steal From a Compsci – A Rambling Slate and KOKH FOX 25 :: Top [...]
May 1st, 2010 on 12:09 am
Does anyone know of any software like wavesecure for the iphone any help is appreciated
May 8th, 2010 on 7:04 pm
Well, it’s a good story, however, I’m affraid it will work only in some countries with good law enforcement standards.
I mean if I will call the Hungarian police with the same issue, they very probably will laugh and hang up, or in the best case their require me to go to the police station, wait several hours until the officer would talk with me, than complete several written forms and wait several days until they act, probably sending a mail that “case closed, suspect unknown”.
May 10th, 2010 on 6:53 pm
[...] Interesting blog about a phone being returned using WaveSecure at Don’t Steal From a Compsci – A Rambling Slate [...]
May 12th, 2010 on 7:48 am
Hi, I just read about your story. I am currently with tencube and am doing a study on consumer perspective and experience on using Wavesecure. I would greatly appreciate if I could contact you via email to find out more about your experience of using Wavesecure?
Thank you in advance!
May 13th, 2010 on 2:24 am
[...] Also, the original owner might have WaveSecure or some other app, like in Don’t Steal From a Compsci – A Rambling Slate [...]
June 7th, 2010 on 6:33 pm
[...] Originally Posted by toneyl I would love an app that explodes the droid remotely. Or better yet, a homing device app that transforms the droid into a tiny plane so it could fly back home to me! Although it's too late for you now, there's an interesting blog of someone using the app WaveSecure at Don’t Steal From a Compsci – A Rambling Slate [...]
June 18th, 2010 on 11:47 pm
Nice one I Like it ………………